Hello and welcome to CertForums.co.uk, here we host free active certification forums with links to the best free resources for Microsoft's MCSA MCSE MCDBA Cisco's CCNA CCDA and CCNP, and CompTIA's A+ Network+ i-NET+ and Security+ certifications in the UK. If you wish to post or use other advanced features you will need to register first. Registration is absolutely free and takes only a few minutes to complete so sign up today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support

Go Back   CertForums > Certification Support Forums > Employment & Jobs
Home Forums Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Job Hunting Advice

Post New ThreadReply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-Jan-2006, 11:19 PM
arisen's Avatar
arisen arisen is offline
Valued Member
Posts: 244
Points: 157 arisen has over 100 pointsarisen has over 100 points
Power: 8
None
Join Date: 10 Oct 2005
Location: London, UK.
Certifications: Degree, Net+
WIP: iNet+ then Linux+
Job Hunting Advice

Someone over at Techforums posted this link relating to IT job hunting, it leans heavily towards network admin, but useful stuff nonetheless:

http://www.thenetworkadministrator.c...romyouboss.htm

Thought it was pretty good, what dya all think?



Last edited by AJ : 04-Jan-2006 at 09:45 PM. Reason: THread Pinned (AJ)
 
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-Jan-2006, 11:38 PM
_omni_'s Avatar
_omni_ _omni_ is offline
Longterm Member
Posts: 647
Points: 263 _omni_ has over 250 points_omni_ has over 250 points_omni_ has over 250 points
Power: 15
None
Join Date: 21 Jan 2005
Location: UK
Age: 23
Certifications: MCSE 2003, MCSA:M
great link man, enjoyed it alot.

 
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-Jan-2006, 11:49 PM
Bluerinse's Avatar
Bluerinse Bluerinse is offline
Senior Moderator
Posts: 7,370
Points: 2479 Bluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 points
Power: 107
None
Join Date: 29 Jun 2003
Location: The Gold Coast, QLD Australia
Certifications: C&G Electronics - MCSA (W2K) MCSE (W2K)
WIP: None but considering SBS
I couldn't agree more with the writer Arisen. He states things as they really are IMHO. Thanks for posting it.

I am not against young people wanting to get into IT *if* they have a passion for learning, are head and shoulders above everybody they come into contact with regarding some aspect of computing and really want to put their talents to good use.

What many of them don't realise is that the learning curve in this industry is a huge one. There is so much to learn that it is impossible to know it all. To get an edge over all the competition you really do need to have something special to offer.

What I believe to be wrong is that people who don't have this passion or any real talent for computer related work are being advised that the IT industry will be good for them. The industry is being flooded with people from all walks of life that really are not cut out to be troubleshooters, web site designers or network administrators etc.

Your link may help to clarify the reality of the situation.


"A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." <Groucho Marx>
 
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 07:28 AM
JonnyMX's Avatar
JonnyMX JonnyMX is offline
Lifetime Member
Posts: 2,390
Points: 1505 JonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 pointsJonnyMX has over 1500 points
Power: 44
None
Join Date: 28 Apr 2005
Location: Newport
Age: 36
Certifications: MCSD, i-Net+, Master CIW Designer
WIP: Hmmm...
Excellent post, thanks m8.



'To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer' Anon, 1978
 
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 07:32 AM
simongrahamuk's Avatar
simongrahamuk simongrahamuk is offline
Hmmmmmmm?
Posts: 6,337
Points: 1858 simongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 pointssimongrahamuk has over 1500 points
Power: 87
None
Join Date: 07 Aug 2005
Location: Durham, UK
Age: 27
WIP: learning Windows Server 2008
Great link Arisen, and great words of wisdom from Bluerinse.

 
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 10:12 AM
The_Geek's Avatar
The_Geek The_Geek is offline
Longterm Member
Posts: 690
Points: 339 The_Geek has over 250 pointsThe_Geek has over 250 pointsThe_Geek has over 250 pointsThe_Geek has over 250 points
Power: 15
None
Join Date: 26 Jun 2005
Location: South Carolina, USA
Age: 39
Certifications: CompTIA and Micro$oft
WIP: PDI+
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluerinse
What I believe to be wrong is that people who don't have this passion or any real talent for computer related work are being advised that the IT industry will be good for them. The industry is being flooded with people from all walks of life that really are not cut out to be troubleshooters, web site designers or network administrators etc.
That, and the fact that they are told they will start out making a huge salary with no experience.


 
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:42 PM
Sparky's Avatar
Sparky Sparky is offline
Premium Member
Posts: 4,997
Points: 2419 Sparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 pointsSparky has over 2000 points
Power: 78
None
Join Date: 15 Dec 2005
Location: Scotland
Age: 29
Certifications: MSc MCSE MCTS N+ A+
WIP: Server 2008 upgrade & 70-284
Great link, can it be pinned?


Me: You need to buy a couple of servers.
Customer: Whats wrong with the servers I have?
Me: Well, you dont have *any* servers just now.
Customer: WTF! I thought I did!

 
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:44 PM
tripwire45's Avatar
tripwire45 tripwire45 is offline
Administrator
Posts: 12,852
Points: 3046 tripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 points
Power: 168
None
Join Date: 29 Jun 2003
Location: Boise, ID, USA
Age: 53
Certifications: A+ and Network+
WIP: Job and Career
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Great link, can it be pinned?
Ok...it's pinned.


"That detective, is the right question. Program terminated".
 
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:44 PM
AJ's Avatar
AJ AJ is offline
Administrator
Posts: 6,134
Points: 1095 AJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 pointsAJ has over 1000 points
Power: 81
None
Join Date: 28 Jun 2003
Location: Northampton
Age: 43
Certifications: MCSE, MCSA (messaging)
WIP: Looking at doing ..................
Thread Pinned


Edit: Grrrr damn you Trip and that quick draw of yours


AJ

Putting a computer in front of a child and expecting it to teach him is like putting a book under his pillow, only more expensive.
Anon

Remember that GREEN is good Go Premium

Last edited by AJ : 04-Jan-2006 at 09:46 PM.
 
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-Jan-2006, 09:45 PM
tripwire45's Avatar
tripwire45 tripwire45 is offline
Administrator
Posts: 12,852
Points: 3046 tripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 pointstripwire45 has over 3000 points
Power: 168
None
Join Date: 29 Jun 2003
Location: Boise, ID, USA
Age: 53
Certifications: A+ and Network+
WIP: Job and Career
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ
Thread Pinned
Nice try, quick draw but I beat you to it.


"That detective, is the right question. Program terminated".
 
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 08-Jan-2006, 07:49 PM
zxspectrum's Avatar
zxspectrum zxspectrum is offline
Longterm Member
Posts: 733
Points: 91 zxspectrum has between 1 & 100 points
Power: 13
None
Join Date: 29 Mar 2005
Location: liverpool
Age: 32
Certifications: starting out
WIP: ECDL and University Degree
Well that was a brilliant post, as im looking to work in computers i will be taking some tips from that cheers

 
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-Jan-2006, 08:59 PM
Boyce's Avatar
Boyce Boyce is offline
Moderator
Posts: 5,546
Points: 945 Boyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 pointsBoyce has over 500 points
Power: 71
None
Join Date: 23 Feb 2005
Location: Cardiff
Age: 29
Certifications: MCSA 2003, MCDST, A+, Network+
WIP: 'bit of everything!
cracking link, thanks. .
Some real good pointers there for all of us to gain from.


Tech's do IT under the desk.
 
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-Mar-2006, 06:17 PM
rezza rezza is offline
New Member
Posts: 5
Points: 0 rezza has no points
Power: 5
None
Join Date: 07 Mar 2006
True though the pity is that all those bastardz refuse you even if you have a degree + CCNA + MCSE. Reason: No experience. I am getting really frustrated with this attitude . How am I gonna get a job in the frist place if all those "managers" ask for 3 years experience. I dunno what to do. I am qualified, unexperienced and broke and in tears.

 
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-Mar-2006, 09:45 PM
Bluerinse's Avatar
Bluerinse Bluerinse is offline
Senior Moderator
Posts: 7,370
Points: 2479 Bluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 pointsBluerinse has over 2000 points
Power: 107
None
Join Date: 29 Jun 2003
Location: The Gold Coast, QLD Australia
Certifications: C&G Electronics - MCSA (W2K) MCSE (W2K)
WIP: None but considering SBS
Quote:
Originally Posted by rezza
True though the pity is that all those bastardz refuse you even if you have a degree + CCNA + MCSE. Reason: No experience. I am getting really frustrated with this attitude . How am I gonna get a job in the frist place if all those "managers" ask for 3 years experience. I dunno what to do. I am qualified, unexperienced and broke and in tears.
Chin up rezza, the truth is you have to be very proactive and persistent to get your foot in the door. Keep on sending those CVs out, keep pestering your recruitment agencies, keep applying for every job that might open that door for you! Ask around for voluntary work in your local schools etc.

Never give up, you will get there sooner or later for sure.


"A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five." <Groucho Marx>
 
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-Mar-2006, 12:08 AM
unemployedstudent's Avatar
unemployedstudent unemployedstudent is offline
Valued Member
Posts: 105
Points: 0 unemployedstudent has no points
Power: 6
None
Join Date: 28 Feb 2006
Location: Thornbury, Bristol, UK.
Age: 49
Certifications: BAISA(hons) Degree, ECDL.
WIP: A+, CompTIA N+, CCNA
Jobs

Good read, thanks for taking the effort to post the thread.

As for 'kids', I'm 47, not really a kid, but the challenge for me is still there.

 
Reply With Quote
Post New ThreadReply Spread this thread: Submit this thread to digg Submit this thread to del.icio.us


Go Back   CertForums > Certification Support Forums > Employment & Jobs


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seeking advice on maintenance job rusty155 Employment & Jobs 9 07-Nov-2005 11:47 PM
10 Hottest Certifications for 2005 wagnerk Training & Development 9 05-Aug-2005 11:04 AM
Hmm ... job / cv advice needed Hello World Employment & Jobs 2 15-May-2005 02:33 PM
Advice on training or qualifications get job in IT Support gary_potten