CertForums


Go Back   CertForums > Certification Forums > Microsoft Certification Forums > MCAD /MCSD / MCTS / MCPD


BrainDump Defination?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 04:20 PM
momer79 momer79 is offline
New Member
Posts: 10
 
Reputation
Points: 0 momer79 has no points
Power: 2
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 17 May 2009
Rep Power: 2
momer79 has no points
BrainDump Defination?

Hi, I am preparing for certification exam and wondering if it is legall to practise old questions of this certification exam. I know that some companies offer real exam questions and it is totaly illegal but is this legal to practise old exam questions?

Thanks

 
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 04:23 PM
UKDarkstar's Avatar
UKDarkstar UKDarkstar is offline CertForums News Posting Member
Premium Member
Posts: 3,255
 
Reputation
Points: 6528 UKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 points
Power: 101
Awards
Profile
Join Date: 14 Jun 2008
Location: UK, South Coast, Dorset
Age: 48
Certifications: BA (Hons), MBCS, CITP ITIL v3 Fdn
WIP: MSc + various other stuff
Rep Power: 101
UKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 pointsUKDarkstar has over 4000 points
Check out any site you're getting questions from at www.certguard.com first


WIP : CCNA (postponed), Completed course - PTLLS (award pending), MSc commenced (exp 2011)
 
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 04:37 PM
momer79 momer79 is offline
New Member
Posts: 10
 
Reputation
Points: 0 momer79 has no points
Power: 2
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 17 May 2009
Rep Power: 2
momer79 has no points
Hi, its not really easy to get old exam questions becuase most of the vendors like pass4sure and testking offer real upto date exam questions which is not legall at all.

Old questions can be found through rapidshare and filter them by old dates but still i am not sure if it is legall to practise old exam questions which were produced by braindump websites like testking,pass4sure?

Thanks


Last edited by momer79; 19-Nov-2009 at 04:38 PM.
 
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 04:44 PM
alicat alicat is offline
New Member
Posts: 32
 
Reputation
Points: 0 alicat has no points
Power: 2
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 27 Mar 2009
Location: Hastings
Certifications: BA, ISEB Software Testing, N+.
Rep Power: 2
alicat has no points
They are still braindumps, even if they are 'out of date'. So yes it is still illegal.


Last edited by alicat; 19-Nov-2009 at 04:58 PM. Reason: edited to add punctuation I had missed.
 
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 04:55 PM
Josiahb's Avatar
Josiahb Josiahb is offline
Longterm Member
Posts: 617
 
Reputation
Points: 728 Josiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 points
Power: 16
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 01 Sep 2008
Location: UK
Certifications: A+, Network+
WIP: MCDST, MCSA, MCSE, Server+ maybe
Rep Power: 16
Josiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 pointsJosiahb has over 500 points
Quote:
Originally Posted by alicat View Post
They are still braindumps, even if they are 'out of date'. So yes it is still illegal
^this^

there are plenty of legitimate practice exam options out there which will give you a good understanding of the style of questions you'll be asked in the exam without risking decertification, take a look at the likes of Boson or Transcender.

And as UKD says, run any site your looking at through certguard to ensure its legit.


Woohoo! blog whoring....

Secret Diaries....

AMBCS
 
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 05:21 PM
JonnyMX's Avatar
JonnyMX JonnyMX is offline
Lifetime Member
Posts: 3,906
 
Reputation
Points: 10020 JonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 points
Power: 148
Awards
Profile
Join Date: 28 Apr 2005
Location: Newport
Age: 38
Certifications: MCSD, i-Net+, CIW, Prince2, MSP, MCT
WIP: C.O.D. Modern Warfare 2
Rep Power: 148
JonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 pointsJonnyMX has over 4000 points
There aren't really such things as 'past papers' as there are in academic circles.
You need to look for people who publish practice papers that are equivalent in terms of style and difficulty.


'To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer'
 
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 06:01 PM
greenbrucelee's Avatar
greenbrucelee greenbrucelee is offline
Lifetime Member
Posts: 12,183
 
Reputation
Points: 4830 greenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 points
Power: 175
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 21 Mar 2007
Location: Carlisle Cumbria
Age: 33
Certifications: A+, N+, MCDST, S+
WIP: N+ 2009 for some stupid reason
Rep Power: 175
greenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 pointsgreenbrucelee has over 4000 points
when you take an IT certification exam, say the A+ for example your exam is based on a large pool of questions so it is unlikely that someone next you taking the same exam as you will get the same questions. What these places do is have people take the exams so they can work out the pool then make it into practice exams. These people already know their stuff so they put in the answers to the questions too.

If you take the A+ and fail it you can take it again but if you fail it a 3rd time you have to wait a while before taking it again (I think it's 3 months) apparently this is so a newer pool is generated so these braindump companies have people take the exam again so they can keep their dodgy software upto date.

Always use certgaurd to check the validity of what your using as practice exams and never be tempted to use a braindump it will only cause you trouble in the long run.


S+,MCDST,N+,A+,HND Business Computing, GNVQ Level 3 IT, NVQ Level 1 & 2 IT

Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula x48
CPU: Intel C2D E8400 @ 4GHz
HSF: Tuniq Tower
GPU: BFG GTX 260 OC2 Maxcore Edition
RAM: 4GB Geil Black Dragon 1066Mhz
CASE: Antec 1200
PSU: 700W Seasonic M12
DVDRW: LG 20x DVD Rewriter
HD1: 250GB Samsung Spinpoint
HD2: Samsung external backup drive 160GB
Display: 22" Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW

RIP UCM, your were always willing to help & will not be forgotten
 
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 06:09 PM
BosonMichael's Avatar
BosonMichael BosonMichael is online now
Lifetime Member
Posts: 16,903
 
Reputation
Points: 12045 BosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 points
Power: 296
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 02 Nov 2006
Location: near Nashville, TN
Age: 40
Certifications: MCSE+I, MCSE: Securi.. huh? out of room?
WIP: Just about everything!
Rep Power: 296
BosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 pointsBosonMichael has over 4000 points
Quote:
Originally Posted by momer79 View Post
Hi, I am preparing for certification exam and wondering if it is legall to practise old questions of this certification exam. I know that some companies offer real exam questions and it is totaly illegal but is this legal to practise old exam questions?
Nope. Studying actual exam questions is still considered using braindumps, whether past or present, and using them can get you decertified for life.

Further, I'm not sure what you mean by "old questions"... the questions on the 70-270 exam in 2002 are still among the questions on the 70-270 exam used today.

Why not just purchase some questions from a trusted practice exam provider that you KNOW to be legit? Consider it a wise investment in your career.


BosonMichael
MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CCNA Security, CCNA Voice, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+
Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92
Everyone else is posting their blog... guess I will too!
 
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 19-Nov-2009, 07:46 PM
Trogdor's Avatar
Trogdor Trogdor is offline
The Burninator
Posts: 185
 
Reputation
Points: 755 Trogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 points
Power: 17
Awards
None
Profile
Join Date: 05 Jun 2005
Location: St Albans, Hertfordshire
Certifications: A+, Network+, MCDST
WIP: MCSA, IT Diploma
Rep Power: 17
Trogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 pointsTrogdor has over 500 points
I think that in passing an exam using braindumps / old test questions (old braindumps) you are only causing problems for yourself. The goal, in my view, of passing an exam is to learn a body of knowledge - not simply memorise a series of answers one day and regurgitate them in an exam the next. The cert may look good on a CV, but if it is achieved using braindumps you do not actually posess the knowledge required to pass the cert. This can come back to bite you if you actually get a job based on your certs; if you are hired to apply the knowledge your CV states you posess, but actually don't.

Basically,

braindumps / old test questions = bad

studying and applying your learning through real life labs / other practice = good


"If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."
-Derek Bok
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   CertForums > Certification Forums > Microsoft Certification Forums > MCAD /MCSD / MCTS / MCPD

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is a uCertify Braindump? momer79 MCAD /MCSD / MCTS / MCPD 7 26-Aug-2009 05:47 PM
Check if material is a braindump? jamin100 Training & Development 4 10-Jul-2009 12:52 PM
Proprofs site a braindump? demarrer A+ 10 16-Jun-2008 10:55 PM
Suing the braindump companies greenbrucelee The Lounge - Off Topic 6 28-Oct-2007 03:02 AM
Genuine exam test prep software or a braindump? How to determine the difference simongrahamuk Training & Development 62 02-Aug-2007 09:10 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:05 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
CertForums.co.uk (C) copyright 2003-2009 All Rights Reserved. Content published on CertForums.co.uk requires permission for reprint.
Lunarpages.com Web Hosting