70-536 Exam Content....

[fruddinator]

Hi all,

I've ready the study guide twice now and then I bought the practice exam pack from t******g.

I did the practice exams and found there were really specific questions about framework classes that weren't even mentioned in the study guide!

For example one question tested my knowledge of the PublisherMembershipCondition class, in particular it's methods. Again not mentioned in the study guide.

So I'm wondering is this a realistic question for the exam? There were several other examples of this!

I'm happy to do the study but feel a bit discouraged like I'm going to be asked what I haven't studied.

Any thoughts or guidance is most appreciated.

Thanks again
Andrew Duffy

[dmarsh]

Te****ng are an illegal braindump provider, using them is cheating and devalues the certification for everyone. You could also find yourself banned for life from taking certification exams by Microsoft.

MS recommends MeasureUp as an approved Exam Simulation provider for this exam.

The 70-536 exam tests on the objectives specified on their site :-

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en...6&Locale=en-us

The exam does not test to the training kit, this is an important distinction, MS expects a certain level of proficiency and experience before you even attempt reading the training guide and taking the exam. They expect you to know the framework from real world use and reading around the subject.

Candidates for this exam work on a team in a medium-sized or large development environment that uses Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003 Enterprise Developer, Microsoft Visual Studio 2005, or Microsoft Visual Studio 2008. Candidates should have at least two to three years of experience developing Web-based, Windows-based, or distributed applications by using the Microsoft .NET Framework 1.0, the .NET Framework 1.1, the .NET Framework 2.0, or the .NET Framework 3.5. Candidates should have a working knowledge of Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 or Visual Studio 2008.

I agree this does seem rather unfair on one level, but MS view these certifications as validating work experience. They are not designed like an academic course, where you study the sylabus and then take an end of term exam. They are not really designed as a training course, despite some training providers trying to market them as such.

This is a common issue with entry level versus non entry level certs, unfortunately people don't understand this, or choose to deliberately ignore this. The trouble is many people want to use advanced certifications like traditional education or to try to fast track their career when they don't have enough experience.

[fruddinator]

Thanks DMarsh..... i had no idea about t*****ng.... I'll switch over to measure up.

What does it mean by "braindump provider"? They somehow get a copy of the actual questions and onsell them?

Thanks again
Andrew

[Arroryn]

Basically yes, they obtain the actual pool of current exam questions, and sell them on.

As per DMarsh's spot-on advice, you are well clear of whatever they have to offer - no one can improve through cheating.

Good luck with your exams.

[dmarsh]

Use the search feature of the forum, this has been covered many times before.

http://www.certguard.com/

[fruddinator]

Thanks again guys....

Now I get it..... the exam content and the idea behind the exams etc.

Last question am I asked questions in VB and C#? (Haven't done much VB!)

Cheers

[dmarsh]

As far as I can remember I think you get three language choices for the 70-536 exam :-

C#
VB .Net
Managed C++

I chose C#, you get a choice before the exam, once the exam begins all questions will be in that language.

I think this is all explained in the training kit.

The training kit has two languages just so they don't have to print two versions of the book for (C# / VB .Net).

Other MCPD exams are available in just two languages C# and VB .Net.

Best of luck !

[soundian]

Originally Posted by fruddinator

Thanks DMarsh..... i had no idea about t*****ng.... I'll switch over to measure up.

What does it mean by "braindump provider"? They somehow get a copy of the actual questions and onsell them?

Thanks again
Andrew

Certguard calls both "braindumps" (actual exam questions) and illegal resellers (copyright violators) braindumps.
Illegal resellers basically repackage copyrighted material from one (or several) sources and sell them as their own.
Although using an illegal reseller isn't technically cheating from the point of view of the exam the actual definition of cheating is up to the exam providers and I assume they also take a very dim view of this.
Either way it's not worth the risk.


Certguard seem to have a sense of humour too:

Originally Posted by Certguard

YES, Testking is STILL a braindump and they will forever remain a braindump, unless one of two things happens:
1) A company, such as Kaplan or MeasureUp purchases them and disposes of all of their old documents, thus starting from scratch (like what happened with Transcender), or
2) An event of Apocalyptic proportions occurs and the earth is destroyed.

Therefore, your answer is: * Braindump - This site *definitely* doles out dumps, euphemistically calling them "Practice Tests" ! Stay away unless you want to risk your existing and future certs.

[Maryloveus]

please refuse using any braindumps ,which could not help you .We could not site the exams to get a paper .
What can hlep us is to improve ourselves .

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[BosonMichael]

Originally Posted by CertGuard

YES, Testking is STILL a braindump and they will forever remain a braindump, unless one of two things happens:
1) A company, such as Kaplan or MeasureUp purchases them and disposes of all of their old documents, thus starting from scratch (like what happened with Transcender), or
2) An event of Apocalyptic proportions occurs and the earth is destroyed.

Therefore, your answer is: * Braindump - This site *definitely* doles out dumps, euphemistically calling them "Practice Tests" ! Stay away unless you want to risk your existing and future certs.

Why would a reputable company like Kaplan or MeasureUp purchase a braindump company like TestKing? TKs content is useless. TKs employees can't offer anything of benefit. TKs customer list is worthless, because it consists of people who want to pay comparatively little money for actual test questions - they won't buy higher-priced products that are NOT the same as the exam.

So... I'll put my money on #2 happening before #1 happens.

Just to clarify - and I've mentioned this and mentioned this and mentioned this to Robert at Certguard before - Kaplan did NOT dispose of Transcender's documents when they bought Transcender. I should know - I was one of the few employees they kept.

[BosonMichael]

Originally Posted by Maryloveus

if you want to site this exam again ,In my opinion ,this post Best advice for your preparation for 70-536 may be useful for u .

Uh... no, Mary. That's absolutely the kind of site we DON'T want here. That site links to sites that contain braindumps and pirated material.

[nmerrigan]

I did a couple of posts on the whole 70-536 exam... I tried to get MSDN links to most of the topics...

Posts 1,2,3,4,5,6,7

Might be of some use who knows

Also to go over your original question..

With this exam, the training kit can be how shall we say it.. lacking..