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Old 03-Feb-2008, 09:04 PM
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Needing help to Set up Wireless coverage for top of house

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I've been reading around on the internet for awhile trying to get my head around this but to little availe so i thought someone here might be kind enough to help me out.

I have one laptop downstairs which is my dads work laptop and is in a 'dock' (he wants it kept there) and this is connected (wired) to the router. We have sky broadband and have a DG834Gt Router which can provide wireless.

My question is that I am buying an Apple Macbook Pro soon aswell as a Desktop PC both of which will be in my room however my room is on the second floor (loft room) I really don't think think this router will reach up there (i've attached a screenshot of my router status if this helps). Is there anyway I can get a decent speed of broadband up in my room without using a very long wire?

I've looked at several option such as the Netgear XE102 Wall Plugged Ethernet Bridge Powerline but the decent speed ones are pretty pricey and i have no idea how to set them up. Im quite happy to buy a new router for a fairly big amount if it will reach far enough and be quick enough i believe i could set this up myself if there such a router that can reach that far. looked at aerials and such aswell but as i say i know very little.

Sorry for the long complicated post but i hope someone can help moi, otherwise I think i might have to look in the yellow pages, you may think that a better idea in fact.

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I have one laptop downstairs which is my dads work laptop and is in a 'dock' (he wants it kept there) and this is connected (wired) to the router. We have sky broadband and have a DG834Gt Router which can provide wireless.

My question is that I am buying an Apple Macbook Pro soon aswell as a Desktop PC both of which will be in my room however my room is on the second floor (loft room) I really don't think think this router will reach up there (i've attached a screenshot of my router status if this helps). Is there anyway I can get a decent speed of broadband up in my room without using a very long wire?

I've looked at several option such as the Netgear XE102 Wall Plugged Ethernet Bridge Powerline but the decent speed ones are pretty pricey and i have no idea how to set them up. Im quite happy to buy a new router for a fairly big amount if it will reach far enough and be quick enough i believe i could set this up myself if there such a router that can reach that far. looked at aerials and such aswell but as i say i know very little.

First - the Sky broadband router includes a WiFi AP - why buy another router? It only makes things harder to configure.

Second - rather than use WiFi, the 'Homeplug' system is the way to go for that distance. Look at the Devolo units in PC world (yikes - did I mention that chain? ). A starter pair which will do what you want is (or was) £95. Use a cheap switch on your end and you can plug as many items as you want then.

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If the main thing you want is internet for the PC's upstairs then Homeplugs will be more than enough speed wise. Unless of course you are trailing the fastest broadband in Britain for Sky.


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oh ok so i can keep my current router then i would need one of these powerline plugs downstairs plugged into the router and one upstairs that i can plug to pcs into (one laptop one desktop).

I also spotted this Devolo 1208 HomePlug Additional Wireless Extender does that mean i would have aone powerline homplug dowstairs still conected to my router then upsatirs have this and this would transmit a wirless signal which i could acces from the two computers?

thanks for the help these look good

 
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I would avoid having two WiFi APs in the building.

And not using them will be cheaper.

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Have you tested the wireless connection in your room yet? The signal may go further than you think....


 
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what would having two wi-fi spots ,as it were, running at the same time do? they would be the same network would'nt they?

It would would be 'cool' to be able to move around my room freely with my macbook, the desktop could be connected directly to that wireless homeplug aswell, so i would'nt have to buy 3 homeplugs, just two: one downstairs for the router and the wirless one for upstairs that also has a direct ethernet connection.

I'm not dismissing your comment I just want to learn more

 
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what would having two wi-fi spots ,as it were, running at the same time do? they would be the same network would'nt they?

It would would be 'cool' to be able to move around my room freely with my macbook, the desktop could be connected directly to that wireless homeplug aswell, so i would'nt have to buy 3 homeplugs, just two: one downstairs for the router and the wirless one for upstairs that also has a direct ethernet connection.

I'm not dismissing your comment I just want to learn more
They would be the same 'network' but different WiFi groups. The interference *might* severely limit the performance. And you would have double the possible problems with neighbouring setups.

And you really want to try to use a laptop while walking about? Most people settle on one place - so if that is on a desk just use an ethernet connection.

You wouldn't need to buy 3 homeplugs. Just the two plus a (much cheaper) switch.

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They would be the same 'network' but different WiFi groups. The interference *might* severely limit the performance. And you would have double the possible problems with neighbouring setups.

And you really want to try to use a laptop while walking about? Most people settle on one place - so if that is on a desk just use an ethernet connection.

You wouldn't need to buy 3 homeplugs. Just the two plus a (much cheaper) switch.

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Lol your absolutely right the only place I would use the laptop would be at my desk in my room or downstairs (living room) in which case use the router signal. This looks like the perfect option for me and thank you very much for your help (rep given) you've just saved me allot of money I think ha ha. One question, what's a switch? is it a splitter or something else?

 
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One question, what's a switch? is it a splitter or something else?
Take a look at the first definition of the term "switch" at webopedia.


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One question, what's a switch? is it a splitter or something else?
Some shops call them 'hubs'. Strictly, a hub and a switch are not exactly the same, but most users would be hard put to tell the difference.

They are the basic glue of a network, allowing several machines, when plugged in, to be a network.

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ok cool gotcha. thank you again all the replies on here hav really helped me out.

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Some shops call them 'hubs'. Strictly, a hub and a switch are not exactly the same, but most users would be hard put to tell the difference.
*gasp* How can you *say* that???

Although from the end-user point of view, a hub and a switch both unite individual network nodes into a segment, they actually operate at different levels of the OSI Model.


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*gasp* How can you *say* that???

Although from the end-user point of view, a hub and a switch both unite individual network nodes into a segment, they actually operate at different levels of the OSI Model.
Take a typical hub, and a typical switch. Put them on a desk in front of a typical user. Ask them what the difference is.

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