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Old 24-Mar-2008, 01:03 PM
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If you setup your wireless with no SSID broadcast, like others mentioned, you'll have to add the connection manually. However from past experience I never really had any issues with that.


My setup is basically WPA-PSK. I woud use WPA2 but the ipod touch does not support WPA2. Then I have MAC filtering to only allow the PC's with that specific MAC address that I added to the list plus the hidden SSID.

All this aside, I know that hiding SSID does not do much, it can very easily be found. On the second note I wanted to set this up for practice because I was doing a wireless setup at my friends house and he wanted the max possible securuty.
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MAC filtering is useless as well - you can sniff a MAC address, change the MAC you are using to that one and run a deauth against the AP in about 30 seconds flat.


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Old 24-Mar-2008, 02:45 PM
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MAC filtering is useless as well - you can sniff a MAC address, change the MAC you are using to that one and run a deauth against the AP in about 30 seconds flat.
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It IS useless... against a knowledgeable user trying to connect to your WLAN. But it's better than having no MAC filtering at all - it's simply another step to dissuade the casual, average, uninformed user. It certainly doesn't hurt anything to enable it.


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I do disbale SSID and enable MAC address flitering. OK, they're fsr from perfect... but let 'em go for someone they can see, and who probaby has little or no security on their WLAN anyway...


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Assume 1 pc with wireless router.

2 other pcs with wireless receivers.

if all the pcs get internet fine and then i suddenly hide the SSID in the router, will the 2 pcs not see the ssid any more or becuase they now the settings they will still see the router?

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Due to my enrollment in the Cisco Networking Academy's "Fundamentals of Wireless LANs" course, I am unable to "just assume" anything.

Questions:
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    1. Internet
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  2. Which make and model is the wireless router?
  3. Which wireless standard(s) does the wireless router use?
  4. Which authentication method does the wireless router use?
  5. What make and model wireless network adapter(s) do the wireless PCs use?
  6. Which wireless standard(s) do the wireless network adapter(s) for the wireless PCs use?


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I do disbale SSID and enable MAC address flitering. OK, they're fsr from perfect... but let 'em go for someone they can see, and who probaby has little or no security on their WLAN anyway...
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Exactly... "I don't have to be able to outrun the tiger... I just have to be able to outrun you."


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Exactly... "I don't have to be able to outrun the tiger... I just have to be able to outrun you."
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But... dude... you're not listening. My wireless PCs don't roam. They sit - in fact, one's a desktop. And they're not blocked by anything that would cause interference. Signals are strong, and they stay strong. Thus... I have no problem with wireless access behavior. I don't. Really, I promise.
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That fact that you are unaware of any issues, doesn't somehow make it 'good practice'. As i have tried to point out, It is a *myth* that hiding the SSID is a sensible thing to to.. all you are doing is proliferating that myth. The same goes for your stance on MAC filtering.

If you enable encryption (WPA2 PSK) for home use, and configure it properly, as i stated before, this is the best way to keep, not only casual surfers off your network but even experienced hackers.

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That pic is about 13 years old. heehee!


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