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I wouldn't say 20k is a good wage per se, but it's not a bad one either. It all depends on benefits and the hours you work. I'm on a similar amount to the one mentioned but I conisder the benefits in my job outweigh the lower salary. I only work 37hours a week, I'm not on call and I'm not expected to work outside of my 8am - 4pm hours. This does happen on occation but it's very rare and we can take time in lieu if it does happen. My job is also in the public sector so my pension is very good by UK standards. I contribute 6% of my salary and my employer puts in 9% or thereabouts. I was also off sick for an extended period just before summer, that's pretty rare for me, but I was off in total for about 6-7weeks. I recieved full pay during this time, I wouldn't have gotten anything but statutory sick pay if I had still been with my last employer (SSP is hardly worth even claiming). I enjoy my job, my friend & colleague (and secret lover - in joke Dom aka Modey Other quals :- HND-Computer Studies, ECDL, C&G/NCC Application Programming, C&G/RTEEB Electronic Servicing, C&G Microcomputer Technology. MBCS
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gotcha, i am in the public sector as well, although sounds like you guys get better benefits than we do. what is the cost of living on average in the UK? i know here in Orlando to live in a nice area my house goes for 280k and thats the smallest in the neighborhood. obviously placed are much more expensive, as in california, but placed in south carolina and such are much cheaper.
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I applied for a Support Analyst job last week, although the job said it wanted experience I said I was willing to learn etc.
The job advertisment also asked to state what pay you would expect. In my covering letter I explained that I have just taken an 11% pay cut to drop me down to £17300 per annum, I though it would be cheeky to say I want £19 odd grand a year I was getting 3 months ago and said £18500 would suffice. I know I have not had a full exposure to IT support but the most of the skills asked for I do on a regular basis and have a good knowledge of the other skills required. Although I doubt I will get an interview I dont think the pay I have asked for is excessive. S+,MCDST,N+,A+,HND Business Computing, GNVQ Level 3 IT, NVQ Level 1 & 2 IT Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula x48 CPU: Intel C2D E8400 @ 4GHz HSF: Tuniq Tower GPU: BFG GTX 260 OC2 Maxcore Edition RAM: 4GB Geil Black Dragon 1066Mhz CASE: Antec 1200 PSU: 700W Seasonic M12 DVDRW: LG 20x DVD Rewriter HD1: 250GB Samsung Spinpoint HD2: Samsung external backup drive 160GB Display: 22" Samsung SyncMaster 2253BW RIP UCM, your were always willing to help & will not be forgotten |
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One question that hasn't been asked by anyone else in this thread is how much money do you need to live on? Is your income enough to support all of your basic living expenses such as rent, utilities, food, and transportation? In short, can you afford to be working at least on a breakeven point where income equals expenses? Also, as a minimum, try to ask for a raise that will compensate for the rise of inflation because anything less will probably lead to you basically unable to afford to work. Do you have any benefits that may offset any personal discretionary spending? For example, paid IT exam study materials, study equipment, or exam fees. Also, since you're a member of CertForums, you're probably currently pursuing some kind of IT certification. If you had to spend your own money for study materials, study equipment, and exam fees, at what income rate increase would you need to achieve those IT certification goals? Yes, that means you need to go shopping to find out how much your study materials, study equipment, and exam fees will be, where you should also account for future inflation/price rise. Also account for building some sort of emergency fund for when your car breaks, something in your home breaks, etc. Good luck. MCSE, MCP+I, MCP, A+, CCNA certified |
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I started on 14k and after 3 months I was boosted to 18k
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My first role in IT was on 12k and after 3 and a half years i left on 13.5K.... (public sector).
I then progressed to a second line support role in a small private company on 17.5K then moved back to the public sector to my current role on 22k. I start my new job in 2 weeks with a large IT Services company on 34k so i was incredibly lucky to geta 54% pay rise! What i would say is that when you are in the lower roles on 12k or 13k its harder to move up the scale. If you know your colleagues are on 17k for example ask for 16k with a review 6 months down the line. After all you need to prove yourself and this shows that you are willing to do that. As you move up from first line, to second, to third for example always try and develop your skills whenever possible. You'll be in a much better position to argue pay rises if you can say "since the last review i have achieved A, B and C and passed this exam".... sounds much better than "i want a pay rise because... ummm... i want one..." Think of some examples of pro-active work you have done or new technologies you have mastered, put your case forward! Good luck! Certs - CISSP, MCSE 2003, CCNA, CCDA, CCA, CEH, A+, N+, S+, Project+, Linux+, CIW, ITIL, PRINCE 2 Practitioner "When the photocopier doesn't work, call IT support. There's electronics in it, right?" Matt |
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House prices in the UL have gotten really silly in the last few years, they are very high now compared to what they used to be. My house is currently worth about £200K (British Sterling) so I guess that's about $400k in US dollars. That's for a 3 bedroomed detached house in a nice area. I know you mentioned your house was small, but the impression I get from US TV is that small for you, would be massive over here. Dom aka Modey Other quals :- HND-Computer Studies, ECDL, C&G/NCC Application Programming, C&G/RTEEB Electronic Servicing, C&G Microcomputer Technology. MBCS |
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heh i said smallest in my area. it sure seems small for me and my family at times though, its 1600 sq feet.
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i think most big companys have a wage structure.
currently i'm on 18k + 2k london weighting a year in a junior role. on our company website there is a wage strucutre detailed telling you how much you can expect to earn as you get more experienced. |
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Well I'm no expert but heres what I've noticed from job sites etc...
Salaries in the UK are generally £12k-100k Salaries in the US are generally $12k-100k So the general conversion of one for one seems valid. I think $80k in the US is not uncommon and some taxes are lower but you need healthcare. Earning above £65k in the UK is pretty hard. So there does seem to be some non linear relationship as pay increases on average salary, however if you take the min-max one to one seems to hold. UK salaries look better than US ones if you use the official exchange rate but I don't think this is a true representation unless you are relocating and can somehow use the exchange rate. |
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Try again...
BosonMichael MCSE+I, MCSE: Security, MCSE: Messaging, MCDST, MCDBA, MCTS, OCP, CCNP, CCDP, CCNA Security, CCNA Voice, CNE, SCSA, Security+, Linux+, Server+, Network+, A+ Served proudly, US Army, 98C Intelligence Analyst, '89-'92 Everyone else is posting their blog... guess I will too! |
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I've been looking into roles over there and most are in the 80 - 120k mark, which would technically be a substantial pay drop based on official exchange rate numbers, that said, the cost of living would be substantially cheaper, for the price of my 2 bed flat I could get a 4 bed detached with a pool! and health insurance? pah for what I pay in NI contributions (like, 200+ quid a month) I could get some pretty good coverage, I spose its just another one of those reasons that 200'000 brits leave each year Regards, Ryan "Phoenix" Coates MBCS ![]() ![]() OH HAI. I M Fe ♂. KTHXBYE Stuff Blog: http://www.theinquisitivegeek.com/blog/ | http://www.underidaho.com Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrpheo URLs: http://del.icio.us/ryan.coates Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ryancoates Reader Shared Items: https://www.google.com/reader/shared...32308734378806 WiP: VCDX 4.0 (unreleased) |
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I'm starting to feel a little monetarily underappreciated for outer (just) London, 1st/2nd line of support... (I get help on 1st line, but the 2nd line is my own... and I rarely pass to 3rd) with over 300 computers and dumb terms and almost 600 users... all for the wonderful prize of..... 17k a year
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