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Andre
01-Aug-2004, 03:51 AM
How much do I have to know about processors? Do I really need to know how much cache L1 or 2 has got pentium celeron or other ?

Phoenix
01-Aug-2004, 06:04 AM
to be honest thats really not knowing alot about the processors, infact its the fundemental difference between a celeron and a P4

its not like you need to know the processors, cache size, die, instruction set and socket type for every processor since the 1980s

SiFor
01-Aug-2004, 09:49 AM
I would say you need to have a good idea of the different processor types and architectures such as knowing what ZIF, PGA, FCPGA and the like stand for and what they mean. Knowing a little about the CPU sockets would also help. You don't really need to know every little detail about CPU's just the basics and some of the history.

mufftak
02-Aug-2004, 08:57 AM
I had one of these questions on my exam..... what level 2 cache for a ???? processor.

noelg24
02-Aug-2004, 10:17 AM
Isnt the L2 cache for P4 CPUs at about 256 or 512KB? Or are the HT ones at about 1MB? and I think AMD are at 256 and 512KB too. but then I have yet to do the exam so I am just guessing here guys.

noelg24
02-Aug-2004, 10:22 AM
Damn I am good...just checked on ebuyer and I was right. The newer P4s are 1MB L2 and AMD are 256-512KB. :D I take it no one likes a smarty pants then eh? :dry

Phoenix
02-Aug-2004, 10:39 AM
Prescotts are 1MB
Xeons are 512k, 1MB, 2MB
Itaniums are 1MB, 2MB, 4MB, 8MB
Northwoods are 512KB
Celerons are 128KB (poss 256 on newer ones 0 onboard on older ones)
Pentium IIIs had 512KB (half speed)
Pentium 2s had 512KB (half speed)

Durons are 256KB
Athlons Thunderbirds are 256KB
Athlon Bartons are 512KB
AMD 64s are 512KB

incedentally
486 DX processors had no onboard L2 cache, it was installed on the mobo (ranging from 0 to 256kb) and had 8kb of level 1 cache

SiFor
02-Aug-2004, 10:47 AM
486 DX processors had no onboard L2 cache, it was installed on the mobo (ranging from 0 to 256kb) and had 8kb of level 1 cache

What was the name of the socket used for that? Was is COS, COST or COAS or something along those lines? Got me thinking now :blink

Phoenix
02-Aug-2004, 10:57 AM
err not sure of your wording Si

the 486 generation spanned 3 sockets
all were of type PGA

Socket 1
17x17 pins, 3 rows
5v

Socket 2
19x19 pins, 4 rows
5v

Socket 3
19x19 pins, 4 rows
3.3v, 5v

none of them were ZIF sockets (Zero Insertion Force)

Phoenix
02-Aug-2004, 11:02 AM
my bad
misunderstood

your talking about CELP (Cache Enhanced Low Profile or Card Edge Low Profile) sockets that took COAST modules (Cache On A STick)

SiFor
02-Aug-2004, 11:09 AM
my bad
misunderstood

your talking about CELP (Cache Enhanced Low Profile or Card Edge Low Profile) sockets that took COAST modules (Cache On A STick)

Thats what I was thinking, thats set my mind striaght. Thanks. :biggrin

flex22
02-Aug-2004, 03:10 PM
I'm sure I can devise a technique for remembering all of this easily.

Will have a think when I get home.

Stay tuned..................

tripwire45
02-Aug-2004, 03:23 PM
The irony is that you may get very few processor type questions but it helps to be a bit over prepared for the exam since it's all fair game.

Flamehearted
18-Apr-2005, 11:37 PM
Hiy all,

I'm on this chapter in the Meyers book and wondering the same thing as the topic creator.

Do you need to learn the complete specs for every processor he lists in the book ? :(

For example should I learn the external speed, internal speed, slot type, l1, l2 and the multiplier + generation number ? This seems a lot to remember for all those processors.....

Also can anybody tell me what the "modes" are that processors can run in ? Theres a question about it at the end of the chapter but as far as I can see no coverage of it in the chapter itself.

Thanks all !

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